You are listening to The Life Coach School Podcast with Brooke Castillo, episode number 133.
welcome to The Life Coach School Podcast, where it's all about real clients, real problems, and real coaching. And now, your host, Master Coach Instructor, Brooke Castillo.
Well, hello, my friends. How are you guys today? I'm so good.
I'm having a little bit of abandonment. This always happens to me after I do a six-day training. I fall in love with everyone there.
We have so much fun. We spend so much time together, and then they all leave me and they go home. Makes me sad.
We just did an amazing training. The people there were lovely and brilliant, and I want to kiss them. It seriously is crazy.
I'm looking around the room right now, seeing all of their faces, and they were a funny group, too. We laughed a lot. It was a great, great, great time.
So if you guys are listening, a lot of them are like huge fans of the podcast, and I know they're listening. I love you guys, and I miss you already. And I'm thinking about Kate, especially Kate came from Australia.
I was thinking about that long flight that she had. I'm thinking about her being so far away now. Too far away.
So anyway, I'm doing great, but I'm missing them so much. It's such an honor to teach at that level and to teach the type of student that really wants to take this material and learn it in a way that they can help other people in the world. Love, love, love it.
I love my job. It's ridiculous. And I love being here with you.
The previous two and the next three are all kind of around the same concepts. The podcast topics are all kind of around what I'm really interested in right now, which is this idea that why bother with all of this hard work? Why bother feeling negative emotions?
Why bother with pursuing a life that's free of all of these yummy, delicious false pleasures? And it's a legit question. And it's the question that I have been proposing and answering over the last several months.
And I definitely want to bring it to you guys and have you talk to me about it and talk with me about it. And I definitely want to talk to you about it. So today, we're going to talk about well-being versus pleasure.
And well-being is a word that I came up with because it really fits to me what I'm aiming for in my life. The word happiness does not fit for what I am pursuing in my life. And I don't know that I'm right about that.
It just when I hear the word, the way that the word feels in my body feels different than the word well-being. So if the word well-being doesn't resonate with you, that's fine. You can put happiness in there.
I'm going to tell you how I define the words, and just so we're kind of on the same page here. And then I'm going to talk about the difference between them. And it will go along with the upcoming podcast and in discussing this idea of how do we pursue well-being.
I think a lot of us pursue pleasure at the expense of well-being. And can we pursue well-being and pleasure at the same time? And does one kind of cancel out the other?
And I think the answer is actually yes. And I think that's what I've been talking about quite a bit lately, is I think when people try and pursue the ultimate in well-being, but trying to keep the pleasure on board, they actually really slow themselves down. And I used to do that too, and I hadn't realized it until I gave up the buffering, until I gave up all of the false pleasures, when I started really experiencing well-being, that I was like, oh, now this is the jam.
This is way better than food. This is way better than anything I've been able to buy or purchase or consume. And I feel like in my life, I think I'm 44 years old, I've gotten to this point in my life now where I really understand the value of all of the work that I have put in to understanding my brain and understanding my emotions.
Because I see people that are lost in the loop of false pleasures, and I can see that they feel powerless. And it's not that they don't want to get out of it. I just think a lot of them don't know how.
And I remember being that way. And so I think our understanding of our brains, our understanding of psychology, our understanding of self-help is a beautiful thing in terms of our careers. But I also think it's helping us become the best version of ourselves, which doesn't mean like, oh good, everyone will applaud me.
It means, oh my gosh, I can really drop into myself and have a deeper connection and offer more to the people around me. And ultimately, I think that such an amazing way to live is when you have so much abundance that you've given yourself, that it overflows and you can give it to other people. And then it just keeps coming back.
I do believe that the more you give, the more you're going to get. I don't think that's just like a cliched quote. So let's talk about the difference between well-being and pleasure.
And this is how I'm defining them. So you really can see that there's a significant difference. So well-being is a state of being comfortable, healthy, and happy that comes from within.
Now when I looked this word up, I was actually really surprised to see the word comfortable. And it makes sense to me because I feel like I have found a way to be comfortable with discomfort. Like, have you ever seen...
This is a weird example, but it just popped in my head. Have you ever seen someone that sits on their calves? They like sit down, and their quads are up, and they're sitting on their calves.
Like, kids do this all the time. And it looks excruciatingly uncomfortable to me. And they're like, I don't know, I love sitting like this, it's so comfortable.
And I think it's so fascinating to see that like something that does not look comfortable, that quote unquote shouldn't be comfortable is comfortable to someone. And I feel like that's where I've kind of found myself in my life. Like, hard things and hard work and negative emotion, I'm there, that's my jam.
Like, I'm comfortable there now. Whereas I used to spend everything, like any kind of pain, I was like, give me the hell out of here. And now I'm comfortable with pain.
I'm comfortable with my own pain, I'm comfortable with my client's pain. I don't go anywhere. I got this, right?
And so I'd love that they use the word a state of being comfortable, healthy and happy that comes from within. So it's really important to remember that when you're feeling a state of comfort, and it comes from within your in well-being, why do you feel comfortable? Is it because you have coached yourself through something?
Is it because you're thinking beautiful thoughts about yourself and your family and your life? That means it's come from within. If you're feeling comfortable because you just are indulging in an ice cream, or if you're feeling pleasure because you're buying something, that's a very different thing.
Pleasure is a temporary or a momentary feeling of comfort that comes from something external. Well-being is something that comes a state of being that comes from within, a state of being. Pleasure is a temporary or momentary feeling of comfort that comes from something outside of you.
Huge difference, really important to distinguish between the two. So if someone says, I feel good most of the time, that does not mean that they are in a healthy state of well-being. What it may mean is that they're constantly indulging in external pleasures.
They're over working, they're over drinking, they're over eating, they're over porning, they're over purchasing. So they're able to maintain some level of ongoing feeling by literally being unconsciously pleasured from the outside. It is exhausting, and it's not sustainable.
So many Americans find themselves in this loop of constant pleasure seeking, constant pleasure experiencing, constant pleasure seeking, constant pleasure experiencing. So it's a roller coaster, because it's temporary, right? So you feel the pleasure, you lose the pleasure, you find the pleasure, you lose the pleasure, you have to constantly be giving yourself the pleasures from the external world.
And this is why a lot of people will say, you know, if I just had more money, I would be happy, because what they're thinking is, if I had more money, I would be able to pleasure myself more often. I know that sounds so sexually creepy, so I'm sorry about that. But what I mean by that is, you're able to pursue pleasure in a more extravagant way when you have more money.
But it still doesn't work. It doesn't even matter at what level you're pursuing pleasure. If the pleasure is coming from outside yourself, you're always going to feel dependent, and you're always going to feel inadequate.
If the pleasure and the comfort comes from within yourself, you're going to feel confident, and you're going to feel consistent, and you're not going to feel like you have to depend on something outside of yourself. So, temporary pleasures include overeating, especially foods that are concentrated in substances that will provide influx of dopamine, like sugar and flour, over drinking, alcoholic beverages, or drinks that have tons of sugar in them, vacations as a way of escaping, right? We go and we get pleasure because we're away from our life, and we're able to look at the ocean, and please notice that most vacations include lots of overeating and lots of over drinking, and excuses for both of them.
I'm on vacation, right? Other people providing us with pleasure, and I'm not just talking about sexual pleasure, I'm talking about other people's approval, other people's admiration, other people's energy, other people even teaching us, other people even just talking to us, entertaining us, right? Those are all external pleasures, shopping, massaging, entertainment, right?
So if that's where we're getting all of our pleasure in our life, right? We were waking up, we're going to someone else to entertain us, we're going out to maybe have a vacation, or we're going out and getting a pedicure, and then we're going out to lunch with a friend, and then we're just constantly trying to seek those external pleasures. Now, let's be clear that I don't think that external pleasures are bad.
In fact, I think they're part of being human. I think when we use external pleasures in exchange for well-being is when we get into trouble. When instead of pursuing our own well-being, we're pursuing external pleasures.
Okay? I know I said that earlier, but I just want to reiterate, I can hear you guys saying, so you say I shouldn't go out to lunch with my best friend, but that's a total pleasurable experience for me, right? No, I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is don't depend on all of those external pleasurable experience to be the summation of all the pleasure that you have in your life. Okay? Now, well-being, where do we get well-being?
And I started really thinking about this, like where can we practice well-being? And I think one of the things, and I'm talking about this in a future podcast, self-growth and self-actualization in incremental steps, right? And in our pursuit of that and our willingness to step out and do that for ourselves, to actualize ourselves, I think increases well-being more than anything.
accomplishment, being kind to yourself and to others, being aligned with your true desires instead of doing things to get other people's approval or doing things to impress other people, to actually doing things that are aligned with your own intuition, your own true desires. I think those true desires are the map of where you're supposed to go and live your life to fulfill yourself and your human potential. Telling the truth to yourself and to others, being okay with your life as it is, and wanting more, all at the same time.
Wanting more for the sake of growing and self-actualization, not wanting more stuff or more success or more accolades, not wanting something from outside of yourself, but wanting something more from within yourself that therefore manifests outside of yourself. Trusting, believing in yourself, having faith, connection, giving, abundance, overcoming, and health. I think those are the things that help us with well-being.
And if I was going to summarize them up, and I've done this a lot of times on this podcast, but of course I'm going to do it again, our willingness to be present with discomfort is the ultimate ticket to well-being. Because the only thing that can rob us of well-being is resisting or reacting to negative emotion or avoiding it. I want to tell you how we do that.
So if I'm going to avoid negative emotion, all I'm going to do is pursue false pleasure. I'm just going to eat and drink and not pursue any of my goals, not actualize any of my potential, not overcome any of my obstacles. By avoiding that, there's no way that I can achieve well-being because I'm not allowing any possibility of my human potential.
I'm basically going into unconsciousness and hiding from myself. The second thing is reacting to negative emotion. If I'm not avoiding it and I'm just reacting to it, I'm going to be contributing to my life a lot of negative action, right?
So if when I'm angry, I yell and scream at myself and others. If when I'm frustrated, I, you know, kick people or give up or create terrible work or start blaming other people, right? If I start reacting to my emotions and blaming other people for them, I'm going to get into that spiral of creating a lot of drama in the world instead of making a contribution to the world.
And when I resist emotion, I create so much unnecessary stress in my body. It's the opposite of bringing the goodness and the internal joy from within me all throughout my body. I'm actually creating the opposite effect.
I'm creating tension and resistance in my body. So there's no way for me to experience the positive emotion because I'm resisting all emotion when I resist negative emotion. Okay, so I create this state of tension in my body that doesn't allow for positive vibration.
So those are the ways that we prevent our own well-being. And the opposite of that, by allowing all emotion, by being willing to be present with all emotion and be willing to really let our emotions guide us to our brain and let us know what is going on with us cognitively so we can manage that from a really higher level, then we can follow those dreams and pursue what it is we're meant to pursue in our life. And that's the ultimate in well-being and confidence, right?
So going through our life, knowing that there's nothing that life can bring us, that we haven't been made to withstand. Even death, right? If you believe that, you go on after you die.
There's nothing in this world that you are not designed to withstand. Someone else dying, you can handle that. I think about this all the time.
There are thousands of mothers who have lost their children to death, that go on, that find happiness, that are able to pursue their own well-being. Despite having faced, I think, one of the most difficult emotions you can experience. The effect of the grief that you would have after losing a child.
There are thousands of people on this planet who have been terrorized, who have literally experienced the emotion of terror, who have overcome that and pursued well-being. We as humans are designed to withstand anything. I think about this, people, I'm like, what a badass.
What do you mean you were attacked and raped and you're still here kicking ass, right? That's what human beings are designed to do. We're designed to withstand it, to handle it, to move on from it, to possibly grow from it.
Look at all of us in the world that have dealt with childhood abuse, that have dealt with adult abuse, that have withstood it. And not only withstood it, but pursued a life of purpose afterwards. You were designed to handle anything that the world has for you.
And when you move through the world, knowing that that's how you were designed, that you have the capacity to deal with any negative emotion and that there are thousands of examples of people that have done it. They have experienced terror and moved beyond it. They've experienced humiliation.
They have experienced... I mean, it's so fascinating to me. I was just listening to the TED Talk that Monica Lewinsky did.
And I have never... I was so inspired by that TED Talk. If you haven't heard it, we'll link it up in the show notes.
You can check it out. The humiliation that she moved through and where she is now is really inspiring. And when you think of the worst emotion that you could possibly have, and you think, I'm a human being that was designed to withstand that, and actually, those emotions are harmless.
Emotions cannot destroy me. I'm designed to feel them and move on. It makes you go into the world with an attitude of bring it on.
I'm not saying it's going to be easy, but I'm going to put myself out there, and I'm not going to hide from the possibility of a negative emotion. I'm going to embrace that possibility. I'm going to get better at it.
When you're willing to do that, your well-being will be off the charts, because even though you may be experiencing a negative emotion, you will have the confidence and well-being that will help you get through it. That is the gift. That is the teaching.
If I could teach anything, it is this. It is that the hard work of learning how to process emotion, the hard work of learning how to manage your mind, is so worth it. It's worth the tedious process of doing models, of learning about yourself, of paying attention to your mind, of questioning everything you've ever known, of going through an identity change, of experiencing the cognitive dissonance, because on the other side of it, you will know how to do that, and you will be able to pursue a life of your dreams, because the only thing...
Hear this. The only thing between you and your dreams and taking action towards them is your fear of the emotion that may be in the way. Once you're over that, you're ready to go.
Your motivation will be skyrocketed. Anything you don't know how to do, you will figure out. You will stop using that as an excuse.
So here's the deal. There is so much pleasure available to you. It is easy to get.
It's easy to buy. It's easy for you to experience it. And here's the thing.
It's easy for you to mistake it for well-being. It's easy for you to take a bunch of false pleasures and stack them up on top of each other and call that happiness. And what I want to tell you is it doesn't even compare.
It's like trying to compare 12 one-night stands with the love of your life. It doesn't even compare. It's like trying to compare 15 cupcakes eaten all at once to what it feels like to know that you are going to be, that you're 148 pounds and that you're always going to be a 148 pounds, and nothing can take that away from you, and you feel good, and you feel vibrant, and you feel healthy, and your clothes always fit.
Nothing is better than that. Certainly not a cupcake. And it's like 20 glasses of wine, versus knowing that you really genuinely don't even like it, and you don't want it in your body, and that it has nothing good to give you.
You genuinely do not want it. People are pouring it all around you, and you just don't want it. For those of you that suffer with other things, like overspending or porn or overworking, it's the difference between doing those things and never getting the result you want, never fully feeling satisfied versus being ultimately satisfied.
Really feeling that well-being of not needing to chase another pleasure. So my goal is to teach you how to do that. My goal is to teach you how to give up the false pleasures, to stop running away from pain, to move towards the discomfort in order to have the well-being, because the well-being, my friend, you cannot buy it.
You have to earn it, and it's worth it. Have an amazing week. I'll talk to you guys next week.
Thank you for listening to The Life Coach School Podcast. It is my honor to show up here every week and connect with people that are like-minded, wanting to take their life to a deeper level with more awareness and more consciousness. If you are interested in taking this work to the next level, I highly encourage you to go to the lifecoachschool.com/how to feel better online.
It is there that I have a class that will take all of this to a deeper application, where you'll be able to really feel and experience how all of these concepts can start showing up in your life. It's one thing to learn it intellectually. It's another thing to truly apply it to your life.
I will see you there. Thanks again for listening.
